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Orange Broadband Matters?
Below is just one of many emails,
letters and phonecalls that illustrate our problems with Orange.
We are now exchanging formal complaint letters with head office
and about to go to arbitration.
David Dunlop and Orange Helpers?
Engineers are looking at it? If you havent paid your bill or something has gone wrong you are barred from using your phone. You call 150 to sort it out and go through the options to speak to an operator and then.... "sorry you are barred CLICK". You try other options to get through to an operator, "sorry you are barred CLICK". You call from Skype and immediately every number you call is "Sorry we cannot process your call" - because your number is coming up witheld caller ID due to it being Skype. The only way to call them is on a BT landline. The number they want you to call is an 07 number - so charged at full mobile call rates. Optional
I popped into my
local On 24th September 2011
I received a “Confirmation of Insurance Cover” letter from I phoned The guy I spoke to
said he would cancel the insurance. I explained that I wanted to know
why it had been initiated in the first place, and was this normal I asked if he would send me something in writing about the issues raised in the above conversation, and he said he would. I will publish it as and when it arrives. If anyone from Orange would like to comment on the above, please contact me via the link above. Debt Collection Agency sent after Orange Customer? Orange's failure to cancel a broadband contract as requested lead to them setting a debt collection agency on my trail. Only found this out when First Direct (an organisation that seem to care about customers!) recommended I check my credit file following a (thankfully successful) mortgage application. This is one of many problems I've had due to Orange being incapable of sending letters to right address or simply calling me (they have my number after all!)
Currently
engaged in a fruitless email exchange with credit.referrals.inbox@ Is there anyone else I could Cc in an attempt to speed things towards a resolution?
Special Circumstances?
Firstly the dongle started to bill us for excessive usage, this went on for months and even when we did not use it they claimed we went over the 2gb limit. Now I work in Internet security and data monitoring and installed a usage tracker on my laptop, this showed (as did the local orange data tracker) that I was well within the limits they claimed I was exceeding. They refused to accept my findings after my engagement with tech support, despite being told if we proved they were at fault they would refund the costs, but they forced us to pay. We then tried to cancel the dongle. They continued to charge us for 4 further months, each month we would spend at least 3 hours calling to try and get this cancelled. Each month they bleated how it was not on the system that we had cancelled. Then, as we are moving overseas again we called orange to see if we could cancel the wife's contract after 14 months of a 2 year contract claiming special circumstances as stated in their T&C's. Of course they refused and obviously as we called an Indian call centre who were clueless we have not got anywhere with this. I despise Orange above any other company and will now go out of my way to ensure their business is damaged and their reputation is denigrated. What an absolute shower of crooks and 'del boy' wannabes.
Orange
Blackberries?
"I spend about 4k a year with orange and in the past year they have delivered 10 faulty blackberries to me. Again they don’t seem to care. This week alone they have delivered two faulty blackberries to me. They won’t give me a different brand of phone. I hate them!" A recent experience with my daughters phone, thankfully now resolved. Today (3th April 2010) I discovered that Orange had blocked the phone that I bought for my 19 year old daughter to use on her gap year travels, apparently because they had concerns about my debit card. I cannot imagine why they decided not to contact me if they thought my debit card was being used fraudulently, or why they decided not to tell me that the phone was being blocked? I have been an Orange user for many years, and Orange have all my details on record, including my address, home number, mobile numbers, date of birth, debit card details, etc, so is it unreasonable for me to hope that they might at least had the courtesy to let me know what they were doing and explain why? My daughter has now been in Europe travelling on her own with a blocked Orange phone for 4 days! Update - 4th May 2010 After 7 hours of phone calls with Orange over the 30th April and 1st of May, my daughter's phone is now working, thanks to the sustained efforts of Julie Watton at Orange's Head Office. She was simply superb, and immediately understood how best to sort out a custumer's problem. Thank you Julie! Update - 20th May 2010 Today my daughter told me today that her phone kept coming up with the error message "card registration failed". After 50 minutes of waiting, being disconnected, waiting again, speaking, being put on hold, passed on to someone else, more waiting, put on hold again, etc, etc, I was informed that the phone had been de-activated again. After being bounced around the system, someone was eventually able to re-activated it, but I now need to find out why this has happened again, and will it just keep on happening? I cannot understand why Orange failed to contact me if they thought there was a potential problem. Update - 21th May 2010 I spoke to a very reasonable guy called Keith this morning about the above issues, and he is now going to look into what has gone wrong. However, the optimism I briefly enjoyed suffered another blow this evening when I tried to put some credit on the phone, as the credit that had been on the phone was wiped when it was de-activated. After another 30 minutes or so speaking on the phone to Orange, it now seems that my debit card has been barred! I asked if they could simply reinstate the credit that was on the phone prior to it being de-activated. I asked if they felt some compensation might be appropriate in respect of the 9 hours that I have spent on the phone trying to resolve this issue since the 3rd of April. Orange said that they hoped the barr on the debit card would be lifted within 24 hrs and that any existing credit would be re-instated. They refused outright to put any credit on the phone at the time of calling as a good will gesture, but said that they may compensate me for the price of the phone calls I have made but only after checking their records. Surely, it would have been a nice gesture if they had put a few quid of credit on the phone after I have spent 9 hours of my time trying to sort out the above problems? Update - 22nd May 2010 I tried again to add credit to the phone this morning, but to no avail as my debit card is still apparently barred, and as yet the credit it had prior to it being deactivated has not been reinstated. Interestingly though, I was able to top up my wife's phone with the same barred card! Update - 25th May 2010 Beth's phone received a txt from Orange today advising that her credit had been reinstated, and I got a message from Keith at Orange asking me to call him. In a nutshell, he explained what he had done to ensure that everything, including my debit card, will now work normally, and there should be no further problems. It's reassuring to know that there are good folk at Orange that are prepared to sort out problems on behalf of their customers; it's just a shame that their system's don't always share information to the benefit of the customer?
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Useful Contact Details Steve recently contacted me, suggesting that I might want to publish the number for Orange's Head Office - 0800 0790134.This was given to him by Ofcom and Trading Standards, and his problem was resolved within 12 hours of phoning this number. And to be fair, I recently contacted Orange to say I was moving to Talk Mobile, as they had a much better deal for folk that wanted "unlimited" internet access, as well as texts and talk time. Orange beat the deal I was offered within 15 minutes! Maybe things are looking brighter for Orange users?
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Below is one Orange user's recent experience in some detail...
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"My initial contract with them was for 12
months, after 10 months l called them to see if they had any
initiatives to keep my custom, first of all the lad l spoke to said
that as a token of their thanks and appreciation of my custom they
would, at no cost to me, extend my current plan for a further 12
months ..after l picked myself up off the floor after a fit of
laughter l told him l was considering leaving orange for Vodaphone. He
then came up with 50% off my current plan for 6 months, after that if
l wanted to stay with them l would need to negotiate a further
contract . Mmmm, l thought, 6 months is ok, and l went with that.
A month later my bill came, and guess
what.... no half price plan... l called them and the associate l
spoke to said that the following months bill would be adjusted to
reflect the change and a credit would be issued also on the next bill,
I said I wasn't interested in what the next months bill was going
to state, I wanted an amended bill being sent to me, she said she
would see what she could do.... no amended bill came but what did come
was a threat of disconnection if I didn't pay the full amount that was
outstanding, so I paid it (grudgingly of course) ..... the
following month, guess what? ... no half price plan... called
them again, and of course l got thru to someone in India, he hummed
and ahhh'd a little and said he would need to contact customer
services and that he would call me back in 30 minutes....
surprise, surprise.. l received no call. So l called them again.. and
again l got thru to an Indian associate, l asked to speak to a manager
or team leader and eventually got thru to a 'floor manager' Manmeet
Kaur' a very unhelpful associate indeed. I was on the phone for 1hr
and 10 minutes explaining to her what the problem was. After being
placed on hold several times she finally came back to me and said she
would call me back the following day because the person she needed to
speak to was in England and wasn't working at that time. I said to her
that l had no confidence whatsoever that l would receive a call from
her...... and guess what?... lol .. yup.. l got no call.
The following morning l called them once
again, this time when their automated voice asked if l was considering
leaving Orange l chose that option. My call was answered straight
away. I went thru the whole rigmarole again with a very pleasant
English lady called Shirley. I explained the whole situation to her,
the number of times I'd called, the length of the calls, the broken
promises regarding call backs. She said everything was there on the
system and she couldn't see why there was a problem in changing my
plan to 'half-price' I told her that it had gone beyond just wanting
the plan correcting and that l expected some kind of compensation for
the trouble l had been caused.... she said she will look into it
and... famous last words... 'will call you back' .......
guess what? .. she called me back... yes! .. she was a lady possessed
with getting the problem resolved. She said she could put me on the
plan herself, refund the 2 months half line rental and let it run that
way until November when the 6 month contract is due to run out... l
thanked her for the work she had done on my behalf but declined. I
said that as far as l was concerned by charging me full rental for 2
months as opposed to half rental Orange had broken their contract and
I was giving them one months notice......... bliss...... I'm now
with o2 ... if anyone from o2 is reading this, then get intouch with
Shirley at Orange and give her a job, she would do your company proud.
As for Orange?.... well can you believe
you cannot switch your answer service on yourself? You have to go thru
their customer services.. yes, l know that can sometimes take up to
half an hour to get thru...
Steer clear of Orange ...you would do
better with a box of pigeons."
Another Orange customer's experience My problem is slightly different than the others. Another Orange customer's experience "Well 4 years ago Orange decided to take away the Orange Mobile Mast in Lyme Regis because the local council denied them a licence to continue here, obviously unknowing to us users! We suddenly had very poor or no signal what so ever. I cancel my contract. |
Another Orange customer's experience
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"My son bought
a Motorola L6 from Orange on 12/10/06. It had all the
whistles and bells that he wanted, but the battery, even after
a few charges, would not last longer than 3 days .
Since it should have been lasting around 10 days,
we informed the Orange shop and returned 14 days
after the purchase date. The shop assistant fitted a new battery
and said all would be well. A recent letter sent to Orange's Customer Care
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"I upgraded to the Dolphin £35/month tariff in order to take advantage of your free broadband offer. Unfortunately this has proved difficult and the service I have received has been disgusting. I have recently moved into a new rented house and it appears that the landline that is present has been blacklisted by yourselves due to unpaid bills by previous tenants. To find this out took many hours on the phone talking to several different people. |
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Another Orange customer's experience My wife recently took out an 18 month contract with Orange, we were also with Orange broadband (might i add though not our own choice as we were originally with Wanadoo when orange took them over). When my wife took the contract out the customer service adviser told her that we would be able to take advantage of half price broadband too! The Broadband was in my name and my wife was taking out the mobile contract in her name, this was explained to the sales adviser but he assured her that that wouldn't make any difference as it was the home address that needed to be the same! However after receiving the first months Broadband bill it was still at the full price. I contacted Orange Broadband, they told me that it will show up on the next months bill. Next months bill was also full price!! Another phone call to Orange then revealled that it was the person s name that determined whether you got half price Broadband, So we changed the Broadband account name into my wifes name and then called Orange to tell them that the names on both the Mobile and Braodband account were now the same..........only to be told that it needed to be done at the start of the phone contract. But if they could start the 18 month Contract again so that we could take advantage of the half price Broadband!!!!! My wife declined that VERY generous offer. A couple of months later Orange were doing a free Laptop if you signed up to a new 12 month Broadband Contract at a PC world shop. Great we thought we aren't tied in on our current Broadband package with Orange, we will pop along to the PC world take out a new 12 month Broadband contract at half the price we were currently paying and also get a free Laptop in the bargin. Not so unfortunately. After getting there the sales advisor assured us it was okay for a current Orange Broadband customer who WASN'T tied in a contract to be able to take advantage of this offer. To cut a very long story short YOU CAN'T and all we got out of it was another 12 months Broadband with Orange!!!!! I didn't cancell it as i just couldn't be bothered to talk to Orange anymore as every time i did i ended up using the most obscene language, and i'm sure that Indians do know the meaning of "Go forth and multiply", they don't give two hoots about current or loyal customers, quite frankly i wouldn't touch them with someone elses barge pole. But like most corporate giants they are only out for themselves. "The futures Bright but the future most certainly ISN'T Orange |